Wayne Dyer and Mira Kelley: A Conversation on Past Lives and the I AM Presence

Quick answer: In this two-part conversation, Dr. Wayne W. Dyer describes the past life regression Mira Kelley guided for him at his home in Maui, which he wrote about at the end of Wishes Fulfilled. Mira explains how regression works, why Wayne saw himself in Peter Deunov, and how the I AM presence lets you connect with the version of you who already lives your dream.

How did Wayne Dyer and Mira Kelley meet?

It started with a letter. I wrote to Wayne offering to guide him through a past life regression, and I said I would fly from New York to Maui to do it. In the video, he admits that the letter sat on his desk, and he just couldn’t put it aside with the thousands of others he received.

He finally gave me a week in April. I flew out, and on Thursday at 10 in the morning I knocked on his door. He had offered me an hour at most. The session lasted three hours. Afterward, I shared information about Anita Moorjani with him, and she soon became part of his life too.

Wayne told the audience that the regression “changed everything in my life.” Hearing him say that in front of a room full of people, without any warning, still moves me.

What did Wayne experience in the regression?

Wayne found himself as an old man living in what he called the cave of light. He kept repeating, “the light is so bright.” In that life, he was trying to help his grown son let go of revenge and hatred by stepping into that light.

After the session we talked, and he saw a picture of Peter Deunov, the revered spiritual teacher from Bulgaria. Wayne recognized himself at once and said, “that’s exactly who I was”. Because Peter Deunov’s life overlapped his own by a few years, Wayne described it this way: “It’s a parallel life.”

I shared that I agree with his teaching that “once you place your attention on something, you become that consciousness.” That’s the heart of how regression works.

How does past life regression work?

During a regression, you turn your attention inward. Sight, sound and touch fade into the background, and your awareness settles within. From that focused place, you can connect with another life your soul is ready to explore.

I also explained that the hypnotic state is familiar to all of us. It’s something “you yourself enter a few times a day”. It happens when you wash the dishes, watch TV or drive a familiar route and arrive without remembering every turn. In that relaxed state, beliefs loosen and shifting from one perspective to another feels easy. As I put it, “Change is really the only constant.”

If you’d like a fuller picture of what a session involves, read What Is Past Life Regression.

Are past lives happening right now?

This is one of my favorite ideas from our conversation. I described other lives as “simultaneously existing right now.” The you of another time and the you of the future exist alongside the you reading these words.

Wayne asked whether the dreams people hold about who they’d like to become are something they can actually connect with. My answer was “Absolutely.” There already is a you who has done what you dream of doing.

How does the I AM presence connect to regression?

Wayne’s teaching in Wishes Fulfilled centers on the I AM presence, the divine awareness within you. He linked the cave of light from his regression directly to it.

I see the two as part of one process. When you affirm what you desire with your I AM statements, you’re connecting with the version of you who already lives it. Saying your I AMs as you drift off to sleep, or while you’re relaxed, lets you shift your beliefs toward what you’re creating.

Why did Mira leave law to do this work?

Wayne shared my background with the audience. I was born in Bulgaria, came to the United States as a teenager with very little English, studied at NYU and Syracuse law school, passed the New York bar and practiced corporate law for six years.

I had my first regression at 13, and I guided myself through it. When Wayne asked me why I left law, I told him, “It was just a knowing that I could no longer deny myself.” I also said that “having the experience with Wayne gave me the courage” to follow who I am.

What did Mira feel during the session?

Wayne asked me to tell everyone what I felt. While he was in the regression, he experienced the divine presence deep within himself and knew himself as that light. As he cried, I cried with him. Witnessing that was one of the most moving moments of my work.

How can you explore your own past lives?

1. Watch both videos. Notice what resonates with you.
2. Read Beyond Past Lives. My book shares what I’ve learned from guiding people through other lives.
3. Keep a journal. The Past Life Regression Journal helps you record dreams, impressions and insights.
4. Practice your I AMs. Speak them as if they’re already true.
5. Experience a session. A guided regression lets your own insights unfold with support.

You can find more articles and resources on my Past Lives page.

Frequently asked questions

Did Wayne Dyer have a past life regression with Mira Kelley?

Yes. Mira guided Wayne through a three-hour regression at his home in Maui. He wrote about it near the end of Wishes Fulfilled.

Who did Wayne Dyer see in his regression?

He saw himself as an old man in a cave of light and later recognized that life as Peter Deunov, the Bulgarian spiritual teacher.

Why did Wayne call it a parallel life?

Peter Deunov’s life overlapped Wayne’s by a few years, so he described it as a parallel life.

What is the I AM presence?

In Wayne’s teaching, it’s the divine awareness within you. Mira connects it to reaching the version of you who already lives your desires.

How can I learn more about Mira Kelley’s past life regression work?

Read Beyond Past Lives, keep the Past Life Regression Journal or book a session through the Work With Me page.

Ready to explore your own lives? See how to work with Mira.

Full Transcript of the Conversation

Part 1

Wayne Dyer: The lady who’s sitting here in the front row, her name is Mira Kelley. And guess where she’s from? The land of Bulgaria. She was born there. When she was 17, 18 years of age, she decided to leave her mom and her sister and her father and come to America. She spoke almost no English, just broken, very broken English. She entered a university in Connecticut, Bridgeport, went from there to NYU, graduated from there, taught herself English, went to Syracuse University, their law school, finished her law training, passed the New York bar the first time that she took it, and practiced corporate law for six years.

And she had written me a letter, also from the land of Bulgaria, telling me that she had something to offer me in the way of healing, in the way of a past life regression. Now, I get letters from weirdos all over the world, and I mean weirdos in the nicest way, the non-judgmental way. And in this beautiful letter that she wrote, she somehow found my address, which I didn’t think was easy to do, and it isn’t.

This letter came and it sat on my desk, and I just couldn’t file it with all of the other letters that I get, which are impossible for me to answer because they number in the thousands. But the letter was always there. The reading of it, the wording of it, whatever it was. She wanted to come to Maui from New York. This is a corporate lawyer who was very, very successful, doing very, very well, and she said that she would pay her own expenses and she would come here. It was important because she felt that I was someone whose demise would be something that was not in harmony with what God’s plan was, and she just wanted to do this for me and was willing to pay for it herself.

I got on the phone with her. I said, “I don’t know, I’m not sure.” But then she said, “Just give me the date and give me the time.” So that was, I don’t know, February, was it? February. I said, “Well, I’m going to be here the week of April 15th. That week I’m not traveling, and I have to travel after that.” And she said, “I’ll be there. Tell me what day.” I was just trying to be nice. I said, “Well, it’s that week.” She said, “All right, I’ll be there that week.”

And that week arrived, that Monday morning arrived, and she called, and I go, “Oh no, now I’ve got to do this.” My daughter Serena was still there with me, and I was trying to talk her out of it, but she had flown all the way from New York at her own expense to do this for me, just out of the goodness of her heart. Her letter was so beautifully written. And I said, “Well, the only time I have is Thursday at maybe 10 o’clock. I could give you maybe an hour at the most.” She said, “I’ll be there.” And I said, “Well, do you need instructions?” She said, “No, I’ll find it.”

And 10 o’clock on Thursday morning, she knocked on the door. And she came and did a past life regression with me that changed everything in my life. She brought Anita Moorjani to me. She found that information on the internet and gave it to me, and Anita was now in my life. The John of God experience was happening at exactly the same moment, a week later, I believe. So this was a week before.

So she came in. Serena immediately liked her, and I liked her because she looked awful good, and she just sounded so smart. She took me over to my office and we set up the whole thing. She recorded it and did this past life regression, which is not really a past life at all. It’s a parallel life. I reproduced a big part of that at the very end chapters of Wishes Fulfilled.

I went back, and what happened is I became this being. I became this old man. I went through these various lifetime things, and it was so real. I’ve had two or three of these past life regressions. Brian Weiss is a very good friend of mine. We’ve appeared on programs together. Many Lives, Many Masters. I love the man. She had studied with him and has now gone way beyond him. She teaches past life regression and does it from a point of view that it’s more than just healing. It’s a way to really connect with the highest self that you are and what your mission and dharma are, and you can find it.

So I did this whole thing. It was three hours, and when I came out of it, I had been in this trance, and I had the most amazing feeling of love. It transcended even what I’m speaking about with John of God the following week. And then we got to talking, and I saw this picture of Peter Deunov. I looked at that picture and I just almost collapsed, because that’s exactly who I was, in that cave called the cave of light, which is what the I AM presence is all about. Living in this place, this cave of light.

And I kept saying during the past life regression, in this trance that I was in with her, that the light is so bright. It’s just so bright. It’s just blinding. It actually blinds, it hurts so much. And I was trying to convince my son, who was a man in his 50s or 60s or something, that he had to step into this light and get the revenge and the hatred out of him.

And that picture, I want to show you this picture again. This picture and all of the pictures in here: every time I look at this, I realize that’s who I was. And his life overlaps mine by four years. So it can’t be a past life, can it? It’s a parallel life. And it’s what I talked about when I opened here yesterday: when your attention goes to a place of higher awareness, whoever it is that you are placing your attention on, the great spirit that they are will become you, and you will become it.

So Mira went back to New York, practicing law, successful, doing very well, and decided to leave her practice, because when she was a little girl in Bulgaria, in a communist country, she had a knowing. Rather than me tell you about it: if you ever get a chance to do a session with this woman… It was so incredibly life-changing for me, what that experience was like. If there’s ever anything in you that you feel you really want to get in touch with, this is it. She is writing a book for Hay House on past life regression. She doesn’t even know I’m going to do this. I would ask her to just come up and tell you a little bit about how she got involved in this as a young girl, what it is that she does, and why she wrote to me. Her name is Mira Kelley.

Mira Kelley: Hello, everyone. I had my very first regression when I was 13 years old. I actually regressed myself, and it was a very vivid and very powerful experience, the type of experience you cannot deny and say that it’s something you imagined. I really was very fortunate to discover what I’m passionate about, what I love doing and what I’m looking to do with myself very early in life.

When I wrote to Wayne, I was looking to offer him this type of healing, because during the regressions that I do with people, I allow them to connect to their higher self. I guide them into that place where they really are able to transform and transcend where they are, and where real physical healing could take place. So that’s what I was thinking when I wrote to him. I was thinking maybe a healing could take place for him. And I guess it was part of a perfect storm for him.

So that’s what I do, and I’m very grateful you allowed me to share with everyone how much I love doing what I do.

Part 2

Wayne Dyer: Tell them, Mira. You went back to New York, and you decided that practicing law, after all that you went through to get a law degree and learning the language and so on, wasn’t something that you were going to do. What was the pull? What was it that made you say no longer? Were you feeling like you were living a lie?

Mira Kelley: Well, it was really very simple. It was just a knowing that I could no longer deny myself. What I felt within me was the true me. And it was very clear to me for a very long time who I am. It’s not like I needed to discover that. It just became very clear to me that I could no longer deny it. And having the experience with Wayne gave me the courage. It gave me that moment of: you know what, this is me. This is me, and I have to follow who I am.

So those six years of practicing law were me getting ready for that moment in which I was going to say, “I’m going to be supported for what I do.” And I believe in myself so much that I can make that step. So in the moment that I decided I was no longer going to practice law, it was very easy. It was very easy to be myself and to trust in my divine nature.

Wayne Dyer: Tell them: you’ve told me that you were actually crying while this session was going on. Tell them what you were feeling, because I can tell them what I was feeling in those three hours. But you said something really profoundly touched you. What was that?

Mira Kelley: In Wayne’s regression, he experienced this divine presence that we’ve been talking about here. He experienced knowing God viscerally, deep within himself, and being that light. And it was so moving for me to hear you say those things. While he was crying, sure enough, I was crying. It was just really very moving and incredible to hear you say those things.

Wayne Dyer: The connection to Peter Deunov and all of his teachings, which I’m going to share with you now before we go to lunch: do you think that he literally came there? You’ve heard me talk about St. Francis and Lao Tzu. This would be my third time that someone of great spiritual magnitude somehow showed up in my life during that regression. He’s probably the greatest citizen from your country. He’s certainly the most revered, wouldn’t you say?

Mira Kelley: I really agree, yes. I really agree with what you said, that once you place your attention on something, you become that consciousness. Because that’s really what the process of regression is. People go within, and through going within, they shut off their senses: the sight, the sound, the touch. They really focus within. And by focusing within, the person is able to connect with that other life they are meant to experience.

So I really believe in the experiences you are sharing about these three powerful teachers. Through connecting with that consciousness is how we experience those past lives. And they’re not really past lives. They’re really simultaneously existing right now. And that’s a whole other story that we would love to share with you, maybe some other time.

So really, in this moment, there’s a you out there who has done all these great things you’re claiming for yourself right now with your I AMs. So it’s really very easy for you to know within yourself that you can just connect with that consciousness and become it, be it, and know that that’s you, that’s real. So you can just trust it.

Wayne Dyer: So all of these dreams that people have, we talk about doubles. When you go into this exalted state of consciousness, do you really meet that part of you that wishes you were something other than what you are?

Mira Kelley: There is a question there. Ask me the question.

Wayne Dyer: Well, the question is: someone has a dream about what they would like to become, and it’s a thought, and so it becomes like a future dream. But that dream, and the existence of that dream, is really something that you can connect to?

Mira Kelley: Absolutely. That you already are. Because in this moment, there already is the you who has done all these things that you consider the past, and the you who is going to do all those things of the future. So through going to sleep and doing your I AMs, you’re really connecting with that place. And when you fall asleep, you allow for that work to be done, for you to really awaken in a new place, just like Miguel was telling us, and be in a new and perfect place of health and prosperity and anything that you desire.

Note: This conversation shares spiritual perspectives and is not medical advice. Please work with your doctor on any health concern.

Wayne Dyer: So there are people in this room with cancer. There are people in this room with various forms of diseases and so on. Is this kind of work something through which they could come into contact with that being that is already in perfect health?

Mira Kelley: Absolutely, absolutely. And what Wayne and I have been saying to each other, and I want to share with you, is that this is not really a matter of you healing. It’s a matter of you knowing that you’re already healed. Because if you think, “I am healing, I need to go through a process of healing,” there’s really a process that you’re creating for yourself. But there’s also the possibility of you instantly being that person and living from that place. And I want to assure you, it will be so, because the realm of all possibility exists. It’s really a matter of how your beliefs will direct you toward that reality.

Wayne Dyer: And when you’re in that state, what’s the purpose of the trance? What’s the purpose of going into this? It’s almost like a hypnotic state. Do you need to go into that state in order to connect to that?

Mira Kelley: The purpose of a hypnotic state: it really is something very simple that you can use for yourself. Because first, let me tell you that the hypnotic state is something you yourself enter a few times a day, when you watch TV or when you wash the dishes. For example, it happens to me when I wash dishes, or when I drive and take all these left turns without consciously being aware that I’ve done it. You just slip and operate on a different level, and your mind is elsewhere.

And really, in that state, what happens is you very easily dispose of beliefs. You very easily allow yourself to switch from being in one place to another. So change is very easy. Change is really the only constant. So if you allow yourself to just relax and put yourself in such a hypnotic state, you can very easily start saying your new I AMs and shift your beliefs around what you’re looking to change.

Wayne Dyer: Is there a website? Can you give that to them?

Mira Kelley: Let me tell you my website. My name is Mira Kelley, so it’s mirakelley.com, and you can contact me through my website.

Wayne Dyer: Yeah, if you’d like to have that experience. Well, you can see what it’s done for me. Thank you.